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programmertote 1 minutes ago [-]
Not sure how the extra supply for grapes affect retail prices of grapes for regular consumption. But at Costco in Southern CA, the price of grapes have been fairly stable (~$5.99 - $7.99) over the last year or a little more.
SwellJoe 4 minutes ago [-]
While I enjoy a glass of wine every now and then, I'm not going to lament the decline of an industry producing alcoholic products; it's inarguably good that younger generations are drinking less. Sorry to the farmers, but profiting off of increasing public health risk maybe should be a precarious business. I'm not gonna get upset about tobacco farms shutting down or having to switch crops, and alcohol is just another addictive and harmful substance (I've known more people who died due to alcohol than any other substance, one in a drunk driving accident, one due to liver failure, two were alcoholics who died by suicide...can't be certain it was the alcohol, but addiction certainly didn't help their situation).
But, also, the income of younger generations has been crushed so much, the ones that do still drink can't afford expensive luxury booze. Decent wine is an expensive way to drink alcohol.
> Third-generation grower Bill Berryhill said it means another year of losing money and wasting hundreds of tons of healthy grapes.
The article fails to mention that Bill Berryhill is a former Republican state rep, from a family of Republican politicians, likely a Trump supporter, and therefore a supporter of Trump's Canadian policies. Now he wants to complain when it impacts him.
gonight 15 minutes ago [-]
Finding the hidden "leopards ate MY face!?" in 2026's news stories has become my latest hobby.
toomuchtodo 40 minutes ago [-]
If you’re a domestic US wine lover, now is a great time to be buying if you have the space to store it.
JumpCrisscross 37 minutes ago [-]
:D
That said, American wine—and California wine in particular—has a bit of an IPA problem inasmuch as there is a lot of overpriced, overproduced swill being priced exceptionally high by international standards.
alistairSH 18 minutes ago [-]
Not just American wine... wines from any region have always been more expensive in the US.
Quick poking around Google... Italy, France, and Germany all have mid-tier bottles of their own domestic wine for far less than we (in the US) get any wine, domestic or import.
toomuchtodo 34 minutes ago [-]
I get the swill at a discount :) "The best wine is the wine you like best." Best deal I recently got was a few hundred bottles for under $1k, <$5/bottle. Easier than the trek to a Trader Joe's or Costco, ymmv (and I don't feel bad throwing a bottle out if it isn't for me, versus a $100+ bottle).
nkrisc 18 minutes ago [-]
Sounds like a great deal, but that’s quite a lot of space required to store them, no?
toomuchtodo 10 minutes ago [-]
Not really, takes up a large wall in a basement somewhere in the Midwest.
Ancalagon 30 minutes ago [-]
Do you just buy barrels at that point?
JumpCrisscross 6 minutes ago [-]
Large-format bottles are criminally underappreciated this side of the Atlantic.
toomuchtodo 29 minutes ago [-]
Only one so far, I'm willing to take more but not a lot on offer. Maybe I'm talking to the wrong suppliers. There's a right price for everything, but I am looking for fire sale|"going out of business" prices. Replies with leads welcome!
vrosas 29 minutes ago [-]
I feel for the wine growers, but as an avid wine consumer I'm looking forward to better deals.
shmoil 46 minutes ago [-]
"Coca farmers are struggling to sell cocaine".
Grow more table grapes? Here in "Northern America" I haven't seen grapes on sale the whole summer, not even once.
bigwheels 41 minutes ago [-]
This is a totally different variety of grape compared to what they're setup to grow now.
I was thinking along the same vein, though - what about special varieties of grape juice?
It is objectively good if demand for alcohol goes down.
neom 16 minutes ago [-]
It's gonna be quite a lot of additional surplus, and, they already do this. Surplus wine grapes get sold to concentrate makers, however, it pays less than it costs to grow them because concentrate is basically a commodity sweetener competing with sugar, corn syrup, and apple concentrate. Bottled grape juice is a small and shrinking market, and in that market, most people expect Concord flavour (these aren't that), plus a lot of bottled juice is reconstituted from that same commodity concentrate anyway.
ScoobleDoodle 34 minutes ago [-]
Yes! I don't drink alcohol but have gone wine tasting with friends and one vineyard had grape juice from some of their grapes and it was interesting and yummy.
An interesting variety of grape juices would be very cool.
lukeify 29 minutes ago [-]
You realise to grow table grapes, you need to rip out the current vines you have right?
EdwardDiego 26 minutes ago [-]
Wine grapes are rather nice to eat (at least the ones I've tried), but they're typically smaller than American table grapes I've experienced, but hey, sell them as heirloom varieties at Portland farmers markets maybe?
dylan604 34 minutes ago [-]
Why put something on sale when it is selling just fine at the current rates?
shmoil 13 minutes ago [-]
I guess I am an outlier, I did not have any grapes until September, when Ontario grapes became available.
It did not feel right to buy murican grapes at full price in the middle of the summer.
But, also, the income of younger generations has been crushed so much, the ones that do still drink can't afford expensive luxury booze. Decent wine is an expensive way to drink alcohol.
https://www.fas.usda.gov/data/commodities/wine-related-produ...
- Canadian boycots of US products due to tariff wars
- Boomer wine buyers dying off
- younger generations drinking less overall and being less into wine
- everyone on GLP-1s drinking less
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_Groundwater_Manage...
Anyways
The article fails to mention that Bill Berryhill is a former Republican state rep, from a family of Republican politicians, likely a Trump supporter, and therefore a supporter of Trump's Canadian policies. Now he wants to complain when it impacts him.
That said, American wine—and California wine in particular—has a bit of an IPA problem inasmuch as there is a lot of overpriced, overproduced swill being priced exceptionally high by international standards.
Quick poking around Google... Italy, France, and Germany all have mid-tier bottles of their own domestic wine for far less than we (in the US) get any wine, domestic or import.
Grow more table grapes? Here in "Northern America" I haven't seen grapes on sale the whole summer, not even once.
I was thinking along the same vein, though - what about special varieties of grape juice?
It is objectively good if demand for alcohol goes down.
An interesting variety of grape juices would be very cool.
It did not feel right to buy murican grapes at full price in the middle of the summer.